Carsons in VA

The Carson Family

From Washington County, Virginia
To Rockcastle County, Kentucky
To Jellico, Tennessee
To Davie, Broward County, Florida

Who were David Carson's Parents?

David Carson is the earliest family member in this Carson line that we are able to identify. There is no agreement on who are his parents or from where he came. He was in Washington County, Virginia as early as 1772. (At that time he was already married to Elizabeth Dysart.)

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A great, great, great, great grandson of David Carson, the deputy surveyor of Washington County, Virginia participated in a Y-DNA study.

The test subject is the son of Charles Pointer Carson (born Oct 08, 1901 in Rockcastle Co., Ky) and Mary Echols Roberts.

Charles Pointer Carson is the son of Stephen Green Carson (born Apr 29, 1870 in Rockcastle Co., Ky) and Susan Ellen Sowder.

Stephen Green Carson is the son of Joseph Carson (born Nov 12, 1822 in Rockcastle Co., Ky) and Mahala Jane Owens.

Joseph Carson (born Nov 12, 1822) is the son of (Preacher) David Carson (born Feb 01, 1798 in Washington Co., VA) and Catherine Lawrence.

(Preacher) David Carson is the son of Joseph Carson (born Jul 02, 1777 in Washington Co., VA) and Mary A. Evans.

Joseph Carson is the son of David Carson (the deputy surveyor of Washington Co., VA who died 1803 in Washington Co., VA) and Elizabeth Dysart.

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Y-DNA DYS Values

FTDNA Haplogroup R1b1b2
Your Haplogroup has not been determined by a specific test.

PANEL 1 (1-12)

Locus 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
DYS# 393 390 19* 391 385a 385b 426 388 439 389-1 392 389-2
Alleles 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 14 13 30

PANEL 2 (13-25)

Locus 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
DYS# 458 459a 459b 455 454 447 437 448 449 464a** 464b** 464c** 464d**
Alleles 17 9 9 11 11 25 15 18 31 15 15 17 17

PANEL 3 (26-37)

Locus 26     27      28        29     30   31   32    33    34    35       36    37
                 GATA YCA   YCA                               CDY CDY
DYS# 460    H4      II a    II b 456 607 576 570    a         b    442   438
Alleles 11    11      19       23      15   15   18    18     36       39    11    12

* Also known as DYS 394
** On 5/19/2003, these values were adjusted down by 1 point because of a change in Lab nomenclature.

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Exact 12 Marker Y-DNA match to another test subject, who is the great, great, great, great, great, great grandson of David Carson the deputy surveyor of Washington County.

This test subject is the great grandson of Gerald Franklin "Kit" Carson, born 3-10-76 in Cleburne, Johnson County, Texas.

Gerald Franklin "Kit" Carson (according to his 1940 San Antonio, Texas Social Security Application), was the son of William L. Carson and Mary Jane Gaskin. (Census: 24 AUG 1850, pg 12-379, house #767, family #767, Indian Creek, Lawrence Co, Indiana. Census: 8 JUN 1860, pg 178-759, sheet 82, House #52, Family #52, Perry Twp, Springville, Lawrence Co, Indiana)

William L. Carson (born 1848 in Springville, Lawrence Co, Indiana) was the son of Samuel M. Carson and Louisa Lawrence.

Samuel M. Carson (born Abt. 1822 in Rockcastle County, Kentucky) was the son of William C. Carson and Eveline Thompson.

William C. Carson (May 22, 1802 in Washington Co., Virginia) was the son of David Carson, Jr. and Cynthia Meek.

David Carson, Jr. (born Aug 20, 1780 in Washington Co., Virginia) was the son of David Carson the deputy surveyor of Washington County and Elizabeth Dysart.

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We do not know how David Carson (1741 - 1803) was related to the Samuel Carson, born about 1739, of Washington County, Virginia discussed below.

Samuel Carson of Washington County, Virginia was the father of: David, born April 15, 1774 who on January 29, 1804 married Mary DeBusk; and Samuel, born about 1777 who about 1805 married Katherine Margaret DeBusk. (Mary and Katherine Margaret were the daughters of Elijah DeBusk and Catherine Rouse.)

Around 1800 the sons of David Carson (1741 - 1803) relocated from Washington County, Virginia to Tennessee and Kentucky.

After 1830 the sons of Samuel Carson, born about 1739, relocated from Washington County, Virginia to Illinois.

In Family Tree Y-DNA studies, a 4th great-grandson of David Carson (the deputy surveyor of Washington County, Virginia) and a 4th great-grandson of Samuel Carson (born about 1739 of Washington County, Virginia) at 37 markers had a Genetic Distance of three.

Distance: 3 - Related
34/37 You share the same surname (or a variant) with another male and you mismatch by three 'points' --a 34/37 match. Your mismatch is likely within the range of most well established surname lineages in Western Europe.

In comparing Y-DNA 37 marker results, the probability that the two subjects shared a common ancestor within the last...

COMPARISON CHART
Generations Percentage
4                     11.92%
8                     46.90%
12                   75.95%
16                   90.91%
20                   96.95%
24                   99.06%
28                   99.73%

Since each marker has a different mutation rate, identical Genetic Distances will not necessarily yield the same probabilities. In other words, even though the David Carson descendant has a Genetic Distance‡ of 3 from the Samuel Carson descendant, someone else with the same Genetic Distance may have different probabilities, because the distance of 3 was prompted by mutations in different markers, with different mutation rates.

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The DNA study appears to rule out a connection with Christopher "Kit" Houston Carson, the famous woodsman. DNA studies suggest that Kit Carson was in the Haplogroup I2b1. The line of David Carson, the deputy surveyor of Washington County, Virginia is Haplogroup R1b1b2.

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Gary Carson, volunteer coordinator of the Family Tree DNA Carson Project, on August 9, 2013, gave this summary of Carson paternal ancestors by haplogroup. (They become a "lineage" when at least 3 participants closely match on 37 marker tests.)

E haplogroup (3 participants)
Unknown
Carson
Not provided

I1-M253
John Joseph Carson 1862 IR-1939 Lake IN

I2b1a-M284
John Carson b1780 Fayette PA d Wayne KY

I2b1-M223 (10 participants)
Hugh Hannah
William Stewart Carson, b.1758, Rowan Co., N.C.
William Carson (yDNA I2b1) 1715-1773 Rowan NC
Andrew Carson 1756-1847 Iredell NC
William A. Carson, b. 1781 and d. 1868
Not provided
Carson
Jehu G. Cason, b. 1818, Edgefield SC, d. ??? AL
Shadrick W Carson b1805 TN so Robert dc1820 TN
Andrew Carson, b. 1744 Co. Antrim

I2b1-M223 Lineage 1 (5 participants)
Pleasant G Carson b1813 NC-Uriah Carson b1777 NC
Isaac Wells Carson b1801 d1832 NC/TN
Uriah Carson b1743 d1780 NC
Pleasant G Carson b1813 NC d 1877
Uriah Carson b1743 and d1780 NC

I2b1-M223 Lineage 2 (9 participants)
William Carson 1720 Ireland-1791 Fayette Co PA
Thomas Carson 1740 IreScotland-1816 Washington PA
Thomas Carson b1740 Scotland d1816 Washington PA
John Carson b1747 Ireland d Nov 1824 Hardin KY
Andrew Carson 1767 Lancaster PA-1827 TN son of Moses Carson 1737-1821 Washington TN
Robert Carson b1730Lancaster PA dTN/NC Davidb1760
Andrew Carson 1767 Lancaster PA-1827 TN son of Moses Carson 1737-1821 Washington TN
John Carson b1747 Ireland arrived Chester SC 1768 d1824 Hardin KY
Robert Carson b.1716 Ireland d.1796 Chester Co PA

J Haplogroup
William Carson b. 1763, Ballybay, Monaghan, Ire

R1b1a2 Haplogroup M269 Lineage 1 (4 participants)
David Carson, b. 1750 and d. 1823 (Scot. ancestry)
John Aaron Carson b. 1609 and d. ?
Samuel Carson bc1739 Co Down Ireland d Berkeley WV
David Carson 1741-1803 Washington Co VA

R1b1a2 Haplogroup M269 ungrouped
Andrew Carson b. 1825 North Carolina
William Carson
George Carson b. 1824 d. 1894
Not provided
John C Carson b1786 Abbeville SC
John P Carson b1844 Tyler TX
Joseph Carson d1817 Adams MS
John Carson b1750 Ire-d1824 Hardin KY- James b1784
Reuben Carson b1767PA? d NashvilleTN, of Logan KY
John Hazzard Carson, b.1752 d.1841 Burke Co, NC
Alexander Corson, Scotland
John (Carson) Carsins 1795-1838 Harford MD
Robert A. Carson b 1833 TN d 1906 Bradley TN
David Carson 1741-1803 Washington Co VA
William Pinkney Carson 1825-1901 Chatham NC
James Carson b before 1750 d1814 Washington PA
ThomasCarson b1816 d~1895 Scotland, Coatsbridge
Samuel Carson d1766 Chester PA> Walter Carson
Carson
Charles Carson b1840 Richmond VA d 1917 Peoria IL
Thos Carson 1809-1885 Edgefield SC-Wm O b1849
Thomas J. Carson b1816 TN
John F. Ogburn1912 - 1986
Carson
Squire Warren
Charles Carson b. 1824 NJ
Daniel Carson, b.c. 1800, NJ

T Haplogroup (2 participants)
Samuel Carson 1795 Cortland NY>John>Erastus b1840
Samuel Corson

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