Carson in Florida

The Carson Family

From Washington County, Virginia
To Rockcastle County, Kentucky
To Jellico, Tennessee
To Davie, Broward County, Florida

Claudia Lung Carson
Born: December 9, 1865 in Crab Orchard, Lincoln County, Kentucky
Died: December 7, 1963 near Jacksonville, Florida

Ancestors of Claudia Lung Carson:

Great Great Grand Parents: David Carson, born about 1741 and Elizabeth Dysart, born about 1745 in Washington Co., VA

Great Grand Parents: Joseph Carson, born July 2, 1777 in Abingdon, Washington Co., VA and Mary A. Evans, born November 16, 1776 in either Washington Co., Virginia or Maryland

Grand Parents: (Judge) John Evans Carson, born on March 28, 1806 in Crab Orchard, Rockcastle County, Kentucky and Marcinda W. Fish, born on August 14, 1813 in Lincoln Co., Kentucky.

Parents: James Fish Carson, born on March 24, 1841 in Crab Orchard, Lincoln County, Kentucky and Eliza Ann Myers, born on September 15, 1840 in Crab Orchard, Lincoln County, Kentucky.

Claudia Lung Carson (see photos) was born on December 9, 1865 in Crab Orchard, Lincoln County, Kentucky, the first-born child of James Fish Carson and Eliza Ann Myers. [Note: I have not been able to find the source for the name Lung.]

After James Fish Carson (see photo) was discharged from Company F of the Third Kentucky Regiment of United States Infantry as a corporal, he worked for the L & N railroad.

On December 23, 1884 in Lincoln Co., Kentucky, Claudia Lung Carson married Samuel David Holman, the youngest child of James Holman and Martha Ramsey.

Lincoln County Kentucky Marriage Book 16 pages 422 & 423
Marriage Bond
Samuel Holman and Claudia Carson
Surety: Samuel Holman and Jas. C. King
Stanford, Kentucky
Dec 22, 1884
Residence of Groom: Crab Orchard
Age of Groom: 22
First marriage for Groom
Occupation: livery business
Birthplace of Groom: Crab Orchard
Birthplace of Groom's Father: Missouri
Birthplace of Groom's Mother: Garrard County
Residence of Bride: Crab Orchard
Age of Bride: 19
First marriage for Bride
Birthplace of Bride: Rockcastle County
Birthplace of Bride's Father: Rockcastle County
Birthplace of Bride's Mother: Rockcastle County
To be married at J. F. Carson's in Crab Orchard
[handwritten note at bottom of page says that the original bond of which the above is a copy was entered in Col'd Bond Book, page 162 through inadverture. G Blain, Clerk]
Marriage Certificate
Samuel Holman and Claudia Carson
Dec 23, 1884
Crab Orchard, Lincoln County, Kentucky
Present: James Brooks and J. E. King
signed: J.G. Livingston

Samuel David Holman managed the livery stable at the Crab Orchard Springs Hotel. Samuel and Claudia had eight children.

1 & 2: Two twin boys were stillborn in 1885 in Brodhead, Rockcastle Co., Kentucky: James Carson Holman and Samuel David Holman, Jr.

3: Thomas Newman Holman, known as Newman, was born on July 6, 1886 in Brodhead, Rockcastle Co., Kentucky. On January 22, 1910 in Jellico, Campbell County, Tennessee Newman married Lula Jane Carson (see photos), the oldest daughter of Stephen Green Carson and Susan Ellen Sowder. [Note: It wasn’t until many years later that Lula Jane Carson and Claudia Lung Carson learned that they shared a common ancestor: Joseph Carson, born July 2, 1777 in Abingdon, Washington Co., Virginia.]

· One daughter, in 1981, wrote this about Newman and Lula:
“Thomas Newman Holman, first child of Samuel David Holman and Claudia Lung Carson was born July 6, 1886 at Brodhead, KY and was called by his middle name, Newman.
He was a jack-of-all-trades and always working on cars on the weekends. He was a good mechanic, worked on engines in the coalmines at Jellico, Tennessee, and sometimes with the telephone company and L & N railroad until the big strike in the 1920's.
He came to Florida in 1925 and worked as a finish carpenter in the Florida boom until his health failed. He was a diabetic and an early user of Insulin in the late 1920's and was ill the last 20 years of his life.
He made high chairs and other furniture that we had to leave in Tennessee, and never regained. He then made doll furniture for his granddaughters, and Marie's daughter's doll furniture is in the Historical House in Pompano, Florida. He also made end tables with drawers for all of his daughters.
He was always very neat and wore dress pants, a necktie, a hat or cap to do carpentry work. His shoes were always shined. He was 6 ft. tall, weighed over 200 pounds until the illness and only wore a size 5 1/2 shoe. He had black curly hair.
He had 7 children, all still living. After 3 girls, the 4th one he named Mary Frank after his brother Frank. She turned out to be his helper in all repair work. The 5th child was his only son, who has one son to carry on the Holman name.
Newman's father, Sam, died when he was a small child and his brothers Fred, Frank, and Billy George died as young men before marriage. His brother Charlie migrated to Mobile, Ala. had two children. He died in Mobile in 1926 and because of the hurricane south Florida had, Newman was not able to attend his funeral. His only sister, who is still living, is named Mayme Myers Skiles. [Note: She died April 5, 1992 near Inverness, Florida.]
He never complained even with his illness, the depression, and 7 children to raise. He never cared for the lowlands of Florida and the hurricanes and always wanted to return to the mountains.
He was buried February 22, 1941 in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida where his wife and mother are also buried beside him.”

“Lula Jane Carson, born July 17, 1890 was a petite, neat lady who never weighed 100 pounds even giving birth to six girls and one son. She was the oldest daughter of Stephen Green Carson and Susie Sowder. Being the oldest daughter, she helped raise her brothers and sisters. She married Thomas Newman Holman on January 25, 1910 in Campbell County, Tennessee. They lived in Kentucky and Tennessee until the railroad strike in the 1920's and the Holmans, and Lula's parents, the SG Carsons moved to remote Davie, Florida in 1925 where Lula's widowed sister, Linnie (Carson) Griffin, had moved with her in-laws after the death of her husband.
Newman, Lula's husband, was an early user of Insulin because of being Diabetic. He was ill the last twenty years of his life.
Lula worked hard during the depression years with W.P.A. sewing and in 1945 ran the elevator in the Blount Building in downtown Ft. Lauderdale until her retirement. Besides outside work, she made clothes for her six daughters and many of their friends. She never refused to feed any of her children's friends when they dropped in at meal time, even tho hard times. Lula did all kinds of crafts, and never missed a birthday or Christmas for all of her children, Grandchildren, Great-Grandchildren, and also many nieces and nephews.
She was loved and missed by all and was buried at Ft. Lauderdale, Florida March 26, 1969.”

· Another daughter, in 2001, wrote this about Newman:
"Her father worked for the railroad in Kentucky. For a while they lived in a railroad boxcar parked along side of the tracks (near a family named Cook.) Frankie and her Marie were both born in the boxcar.
Because of lack of work in Kentucky, in June of 1925 the Thomas Newman Holman family and the Steven Green Carson family drove to Davie, Florida in two cars. Grandpa and Grandma Carson and their children Bill, Hazel, and SG were in one car. Newman and Lula and their children Claudia, Millie, Marie, Frankie, Raymond, and Easy were in the other. The trip took eight days.
They went to Florida because the William David Griffin family was there. William's son, John Ashley Griffin, was married to Lula Jane (Carson) Holman's sister, Linnie Carson. [Note: After John died of the flu around 1921, Linnie moved from Kentucky to Florida to be with her in-laws, the Griffin family.]
One year after moving to Davie, Florida, the 1926 hurricane destroyed their home in Davie. For a while they lived in tents. They then moved to Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.
Because of the 1926 hurricane Thomas Newman Holman could not go to his brother's (Charlie) funeral in Alabama.
Thomas Newman Holman died at home, 725 SW 2nd Court, Ft. Lauderdale. During the last ten years of Newman's life his diabetes caused open sores on his feet. The doctors wanted to amputate his legs, but he refused.”

4: Charles James Holman was born on September 28, 1888 in Crab Orchard, Rockcastle County, Kentucky. On July 20, 1911 in Jellico, Campbell County, Tennessee he married Louella Virginia White. He worked at for the L & N railroad. He died on October 2, 1926 in Mobile, Alabama following an operation for stomach trouble. Mary F. Tatum, the wife of Robert L. Collier, and the daughter of Amanda M. (Holman) Tatum received the telegram telling of Charlie’s illness.

5: Samuel Frank Holman was born on November 6, 1890. He never married. He died on December 14, 1914 of consumption (TB) in Crab Orchard, Lincoln County, Kentucky. (Mary Frank Holman, daughter of Thomas Newman Holman and Lula Jane (Carson) Holman, was named after her Uncle Frank.

6: Fred Carson Holman was born on January 19, 1893 He never married. He died on April 23, 1911 after a long illness in Crab Orchard, Lincoln County, Kentucky.

7: William "Billie" George Holman was born on January 28, 1895 in Kentucky. He never married. He was electrocuted on December 10, 1919 while working as an electrician at the Electrical Transmission Company at Big Stone Gap, Virginia.

8: Mayme Myers Holman was born on February 27, 1898 in Lincoln County, Kentucky. Around 1918, she married Oliver Raymond Skiles, a bank cashier. [Note: Mayme was named after Mayme S. McClure, the first wife of Thomas Jefferson Holman. Thomas Jefferson Holman was the son of Daniel Holman and Elizabeth Margaret Carson]

Children of Claudia Lung Carson and Samuel David Holman

Samuel David Holman died at age forty on February 19, 1900 in Brodhead, Kentucky. One of his granddaughters indicated that Samuel David Holman had a drinking problem and suggested that he died after being hit in self defense by his wife Claudia Lung Carson when they were fighting about his drinking.

Claudia Lung (Carson) Holman and her six children are listed in the 1900 Crab Orchard, Lincoln County, Kentucky census. She is identified as a widow and a dressmaker. She owned her own home with no mortgage. Teenagers Newman and Charlie were day laborers. Frank and Fred were in school. Living near by was Amanda "Manda" Tatum, the sister of Samuel David Holman. Manda, a widow, is living with her son, Samuel J. Tatum, who is single and a butcher.

The widow Claudia Lung (Carson) Holman and her five younger children are listed in the 1910 Crab Orchard, Lincoln County, Kentucky census. Her son, Newman, and his wife Lula are in Jellico City, Campbell County, Tennessee living with Lula’s parents Stephen Green Carson and Susan Ellen Sowder. Newman was working for the L & N Railroad.

The widow Claudia Lung (Carson) Holman, in the 1920 Crab Orchard, Lincoln County, Kentucky census, is living with her daughter and Mayme’s husband Oliver Raymond Skiles, a banker. Living nearby was Samuel J. Tatum and his wife Jeanie. He is listed as the owner of a department store. [Claudia Lung (Carson) Holman said that Samuel was a bootlegger. Samuel J. Tatum died in 1944. Claudia and other aunts and uncles received part of his estate.]

In 1925, her son-in-law O. Raymond Skiles changed jobs: from being the assistant cashier at the First National Bank in Stanford, Kentucky to being the cashier at the East Coast Bank and Trust Company in Daytona Beach, Florida. The assumption is that Claudia relocated at the same time. However, she was in Kentucky when the 1926 hurricane struck Florida.

The widow Claudia Lung (Carson) Holman, in the 1930 Leesburg, Lake County, Florida census, is still living with Mayme and her husband Oliver Raymond Skiles, a banker.

Claudia died on December 7, 1963 in the Florida Christian Nursing Home near Jacksonville, Florida.

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Judge John Evans Carson and some of his family are buried in the older section of Crab Orchard Cemetery (located on a hill just outside of Crab Orchard, Lincoln County, Kentucky).

See Crab Orchard Cemetery Page Two for photos of the graves of Judge John E Carson and J. F Carson Co F Ky Inf (son of Judge John Evans Carson and Marcinda W. Fish, and father of Claudia Lung Carson).

Two Holmans are in the Judge John Evans Carson section of the Crab Orchard Cemetery. See CO Cemetery Page Three for photos of the graves of Samuel D Holman (son of James Holman and Martha Ramsey, and husband of Claudia Lung Carson), and Fred C Holman (son of Samuel David Holman and Claudia Lung Carson)

Other Holmans can be found in another section of the Crab Orchard Cemetery (see CO Cemetery Page Four):

Frank G Holman (son of Samuel David Holman and Claudia Lung Carson)

Billy G Holman (son of Samuel David Holman and Claudia Lung Carson)

Amanda M (Holman) Tatem (daughter of James Holman and Martha Ramsey, and sister of Samuel David Holman and Daniel Holman)

William P Tatem (husband of Amanda M Holman)

Double stone for Robert L Collier and Mollie (Tatum) Collier (Daughter of William P Tatem and Amanda M Holman)

Double stone for Samuel J Tatem and Jennie (Son of William P Tatem and Amanda M Holman)

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“Rockcastle Roots” (August 1992) is the second part of John Lair’s “Rockcastle Recollections.” The first volume was a history of Rockcastle County, Kentucky. This volume covers the history of individual Rockcastle County families. Some of our families are included:

FISH
Page 56
Page 57
Page 58
Page 59
Page 60

RAMSEY
Page 123
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Page 126

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