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James Holman (Holdman, Holeman)
Born: about 1814 in Madison County, Kentucky
Died: about 1886 in Crab Orchard, Lincoln County, Kentucky
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James Holman (Holeman, Holdman, Holdam), born about 1814 in
Madison County, Kentucky, is the earliest documented ancestor in our Holman family tree. He lived in the area of Brodhead
and Crab Orchard Kentucky, which are on the border of three Kentucky counties: Lincoln, Garrard, and Rockcastle.
[His daughter, Amanda, in her marriage bond said that her father was born in
Madison County and her mother in Garrard
County. His son, Thomas, in his marriage bond said that his mother and father were born
in Garrard County. His son, Samuel, in his marriage bond said that his father
was born in Missouri and his mother in Garrard County, but since this bond was
re-copied, the clerk may have mistaken "Madison" as
"Missouri".]
Who are the parents of James Holman (Holeman, Holdman, Holdam), born about 1814 in Madison County, Kentucky? Until recently, this site believed that he descended from Thomas Holeman, died 1798, of Wilkes County, North Carolina who migrated from Shenandoah, Virginia to North Carolina; and Joseph Holeman (son of Thomas) who migrated from North Carolina to Madison County, Kentucky. However, the results of Holman DNA Studies indicate that James Holman, born 1814, may be related to, but did not descended from, Thomas Holeman, died 1798, of Wilkes County, North Carolina. This forced us to take another look at the question of who are the parents of James Holman, born 1814. Of particular interest is the 37/37 and 67/67 matches with two other Y-DNA test subjects: one located in New Jersey, and one born in North Carolina, had children in Tennessee, and homesteaded in Missouri. Based on the DNA studies, we need to expand our search.
I now think that the Daniel Holman of Madison/Garrard County who married Rebecca Elkins is the most likely candidate to be the father of the James Holman, born 1814, who married Martha Ramsey. This assumes that Daniel Holman of Madison/Garrard County is not a direct descendant of Thomas Holeman, died 1798.
Click here to see the results of the DNA tests on a documented descendant of James Holman (Holeman, Holdman, Holdam), born about 1814 in Madison County, Kentucky. Three "very tightly related" Holman men were discovered.
Click here to see where the DNA results indicate we should look to find the common ancestor of the three "very tightly related" Holman men. The line for three "very tightly related" Holmans appears to start in New Jersey, and then some members moved south to Maryland, (including the Monocracy Valley) and then to the Shenandoah Valley in Virginia. Some of the line moved to North Carolina (including the proposed State of Frankland), then to Kentucky and Tennessee, and then to Missouri and Arkansas. Others moved to southwest Pennsylvania, then down the Ohio Valley to Kentucky.
Click here to see the next steps we need to take to find the parents of James Holman (Holeman, Holdman, Holdam), born about 1814 in Madison County, Kentucky. The questions are:
1. What is the connection between the Holemans in New Jersey and the Daniel Holeman of Douglas County, Missouri?
2. What is the connection between James Holeman, born 1814 in Madison County, Kentucky, and the Daniel Holeman of Douglas County, Missouri?
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On June 4, 1835 in Garrard County, Kentucky, James Holman was married to Martha
"Patsy" Ramsey, (the daughter of Alexander Ramsey
and the granddaughter of Thomas Ramsey) by Baptist minister
Benjamin
Polston.
Holman-Ramsey marriage records from the Garrard County Courthouse:
Bond
License
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James Holman and Martha Ramsey had eleven children:
1. Mary Holman was born about 1836 in Kentucky, never married, and died of consumption
on May 30, 1859 in Garrard County, Kentucky.
2. Amanda "Mandy" M. Holman was born in February 19, 1839 in Garrard County, Kentucky. On June 24, 1862 at James Holeman's in Garrard County, Kentucky, she married William P. Tatem, a farmer from Madison County. James Ramsey, her mother's brother, provided surety on the marriage bond. William and Amanda’s daughter, Mary F. Tatem, married Robert L. Collier. William and Amanda’s son, Samuel J. Tatem, owned a department store (and may have been a bootlegger) in Crab Orchard and on September 22, 1902 married Jennie Payne in Cincinnati, Ohio . Samuel J. Tatem died November 29, 1944 in Lincoln Co, Kentucky and left a sum of money. Claudia Lung Carson, the widow of Samuel David Holman, received part of the inheritance.
3. Sally Ann Holman. The 1850 Lincoln County census for the James Holdman household shows an eleven year old “Sally” born in Virginia. The 1860 Garrard County census for the
James Holeman household shows a nineteen year old “Sarah” born in Kentucky. Lincoln County Marriage Book Vol 5, pg 81 shows that on November 7, 1867,
Sally Ann Holman married William McGill at James Holman’s in Lincoln County in the presence of
Daniel Holman and William Layton. Hand written notes from Claudia Lung (Carson) Holman's Bible says that Sally married McGill and had children: Willie and Lilly. The July 22, 1887 issue of the Semi-weekly Interior Journal said “Crab Orchard:
Mrs Sallie Magill and children, of Bardstown, are visiting Mrs. W.P. Tatem and other relatives.” The August 11, 1891 issue said “Crab Orchard: ….
Mrs. Mollie Collier, of Middlesboro, Mrs. McGill and handsome daughter, Miss Lillie, of Louisville, are with
Mrs. W.P. Tatem, enjoying the gayeties of C.O. summer life.” The 1880 Census for Nelson County, Kentucky included this household: William McGill, 54, Ky Ky Ky; Sally McGill, 30, wife Ky Ky Ky; Elizabeth McGill, 6, daughter Ky Ky Ky; Annie McGill, 5, daughter Ky Ky Ky; William McGill, 3, son Ky Ky Ky; Enailine McGill, 3m, daughter Ky Ky Ky; Nathan McGill, 3m, son Ky Ky Ky. The 1900 Census for Bardstown, Nelson County, Kentucky included this household: William Mcgill, 76, Oct 1823, Ky Va Maryland; Sarah E Mcgill, 50, May 1850, Ky Ky Ky, twelve children/eight living; Annie Mcgill, 26, Nov 1873, Ky Ky Ky; Emma Mcgill, 23, Jan 1877, Ky Ky Ky married 4 yrs, two children/one living; Joseph Mcgill, 20, Feb 1880, Ky Ky Ky; Mollie Mcgill, 14, Oct 1875, Ky Ky Ky (1885?); May Mcgill, 12, Sept 1887, Ky Ky Ky; Mary L Mcgill, 6, May 1893, Ky Ky Ky; Charley Datson, 10/12 mos, grandson, July 1899, Ky Ky Ky. In the Crab Orchard Baptist Church Cemetery (across the street from the home of James and Martha Holman in Crab Orchard, Lincoln County, Kentucky): McGill, Sallie A. infant dau 1872 and McGill, William son 1872. [Note: Even though Sallie appears to be alive in 1887, to date, I have found no mention of
William and Sally (Holman) McGill in the documents regarding the 1887 estate settlement of
James and Martha (Ramsey) Holman.]
4. James Alexander Holman was born about 1841 in Kentucky. On May 24, 1862 in Madison County, Kentucky, James Holman married Matilda Ann Elkins, born May 1847 in Madison County (daughter of Henderson Elkins and his wife Elizabeth).
5. Daniel Holman was born June 27, 1842 in Lincoln County, Kentucky. On January 8, 1868 in Rockcastle Co., Kentucky, he married
Elizabeth Margaret Carson (the daughter of (Preacher) David Carson and
Catherine Lawrence). Daniel Holman and Elizabeth Margaret Carson had ten children, including:
· Their son Thomas Jefferson Holman first married Mayme S. McClure and after she died, he married his first cousin,
Perlina Coffey. Perlina Coffey was the daughter of Thomas Jefferson Coffey and
Ruth L. Carson (the daughter of (Preacher) David Carson and
Catherine Lawrence).
· Their son David Carson Holman first married Capitola Slaughter, the sister of
Katy Slaughter, and after she died, he married Mary Ellen Cowan.
6. Thomas Holman was born about 1847 in Kentucky. On December 9, 1873 in Lincoln County, Kentucky he married
Maggie Melvin. He died in 1888 in Missouri.
7. Mildred E. Holman was born in October 1847 in Kentucky.
8. William "Will" H. Holman was born in June 1848 in Kentucky. According to his sister-in-law,
Claudia Lung Carson, Will never married.
9. Francis "Fanny" Holman was born about 1849 in Kentucky and died between 1870 and 1880. According to her sister-in-law,
Claudia Lung Carson, Fanny never married.
10. Madison "Matt" Holman was born on September 3, 1856 in Garrard County
Kentucky.
The midwife was Polly Doolin. [Note: Polly Doolin also delivered
one of the children of Thomas Ramsey, the brother of Martha (Ramsey)
Holman. In the 1850 census Jonson and Mary Doolin were neighbors of the parents of
Martha (Ramsey) Holman.] On December 12, 1883 in Lincoln County, Kentucky, Matt married
Julia Ann Lindsay, daughter of Oliver P. Lindsay .
11. Samuel David Holman was born on June 7, 1859 in Brodhead, Kentucky. On December 23, 1884 in Lincoln
County, Kentucky, he married Claudia Lung Carson, the daughter of
James Fish Carson and Eliza Ann Myers and the granddaughter of (Judge) John Evans Carson and
Marcinda W. Fish. The February 22, 1900 issue of The Central Record
(Lancaster, Kentucky) reported that he died on February 19, 1900.
Samuel David Holman
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James Holman was in the 1840 census for Garrard County, Kentucky (Males - Under 5: one; Males - 15 thru 19: one; Males - 20 thru 29: one; Females - Under 5: two; Females - 20 thru 29: one; Slave - Female - 10 thru 23: one. On the same page was Johnson Ramsey, the brother of the Martha Ramsey who married James Holman in 1835 in Garrard County. (Garrard County was created December 17, 1796 from Lincoln, Madison and Mercer Counties.)
James Holman and Martha Ramsey were in the 1850 census in Lincoln County, Kentucky with their children: Mary, James, Amanda, Sally, Daniel, Thom, Mildred, and W. H.
James Holdman of Garrard County on February 26, 1857 purchased eleven and one-half acres on Drakes Creek (lot #6) from John F Sudduth and wife. (Land that Mary Ann Sudduth inherited from her father, Daniel McQuery.) (Garrard Deed Book U, page 179 -180)
James Holman and wife Martha F Holman of Garrard County
on March 2, 1860 (taxes paid March 12, 1860) sold eleven and one-half acres on waters of Drakes Creek for $130 to
Flavius Josephus Conn (the lot of land allotted to John F Suddith and wife for division and allotment of land of
Daniel McQuerry, deceased. (Garrard County Deed Book V, page 127,
#5724)
James Holman (listed as a farmer) and Martha were in the 1860 census in Garrard
County, Kentucky with their children: Amanda, James, Sarah, Daniel, Thomas, M.E., William, Francis, Madison, and Samuel. A nearby neighbor was Ancel George and his wife Mary,
who was the sister of
Martha Ramsey.
James Holman (listed as a wagon maker and smith) and Martha were in the 1870 census in
Crab Orchard, Lincoln County, Kentucky with their children: Thom (listed as a hack driver), Mildred E., William (listed as a farm laborer), Francis, Madison (listed as a farm laborer and in school) and Samuel D. (listed as in school). Nearby neighbors were: their daughter,
Amanda (Holman) Tatem and her family; Julia Lindsey, the future wife of Madison; and
Elizabeth Melvin, future wife of Thomas.
August 8, 1874 Lincoln County Deed Book 9, pages 98 & 99
Indenture between A.F. Smith (and his wife, Eve) and James Holman, all of Lincoln County, Kentucky.
For $250 Smith sold Holman a lot in Crab Orchard: beginning in front of the Stanford Pike and running back parallel with the line of the lot belonging to
Geo C Hardin to an alley, then south west sixty feet to a stake, then to run parallel back to the Stanford Pike, then following the pike sixty feet back to the beginning.
The 1879 Map of Garrard and Lincoln Counties Kentucky, Compiled & Published by Beers & Lanagan, shows in Crab Orchard:
* the Baptist Church on north side of the road to Stanford
* "J. Holman" across the street from the Baptist Church
* the "Crab Orchard Springs" resort
James Holman (listed as a retired blacksmith) and Martha were in the 1880 census in Crab Orchard, Lincoln County, Kentucky with their children: Madison (listed as works on farm) and Samuel (listed as teamster). Nearby neighbors were: their daughter, Amanda (Holman) Tatum and her family; and William Archibald Carson.
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James Holman died sometime between the 1880 census and October 25, 1886. Martha Ramsey died on October 25, 1886.
From: Kentuckiana Digital Library
kdl.kyvl.org
Title: Semi-weekly interior journal
Author: Semi-weekly interior journal
Publication Info: Stanford, KY: W.P. Walton, 1886
Collection: Semi-weekly Interior Journal
October 1, 1886
“Crab Orchard
- Our sick list this week consists of ---- Mrs. Patsy Holman…. “
Title: Semi-weekly interior journal
Author: Semi-weekly interior journal
Publication Info: Stanford, KY: W.P. Walton, 1886
Collection: Semi-weekly Interior Journal
Friday, Oct 29, 1886
Crab Orchard
- Died, on Monday night. Mrs. Patsy Holman of dropsy, who was for many years a faithful member of this Baptist church and died with a full hope of a glorious home beyond the skies. After a few remarks at the grave by Rev. Mr. Green, her remains were laid to rest in the old grave yard on Tuesday afternoon. She leaves five married children to mourn the loss of a mother, all of whom have the sympathy of the entire community in this, their dark hour of grief.”
Title: Semi-weekly interior journal
Author: Semi-weekly interior journal
Publication Info: Stanford, KY: W.P. Walton, 1886
Collection: Semi-weekly Interior Journal
November 5, 1886
“Crab Orchard
- The house and lot on Stanford street, belonging to Mrs. Patsy Holman, deceased, has been sold to Mr. John Marshall for $400.
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Their house was left to seven heirs. Six of the heirs have been identified:
Daniel Holman, Samuel Holman, Thomas Holman, Matthew
Holman, James A. Holman, and Amanda (Holman) Tatum. [Is the missing heir
Sally Ann (Holman) McGill?]
The sale of the property was complicated with some heirs selling their interest, other heirs waiting for the actual sale of the property, and one heir going back after the property sold.
Lincoln County Deed Book 20 pages 36-37
March 8, 1887
Daniel Holman and Bettie Holman for $50 gave up 1/7 interest on house and 1/2 acre lot in
Crab Orchard (known as the Holman property) on Stanford Street adjoining property of heirs of
A.F. Smith.
Land inherited from father, James.
Sold to Wm M Garnet.
Lincoln County Deed Book 20 pages 37-38
June 7, 1887
Samuel Holman and Claudia Holman for $50 gave up 1/7 interest on house and 1/2 acre lot in Crab Orchard on Stanford Street, known as Holman property. Opposite the Baptist Church. Adjoins property of heirs of
A.F. Smith on north and south. Adjoins W.A. Carson on the east.
Land inherited from mother, Patsy Holman.
Sold to Wm M Garnet.
Lincoln County Deed Book 20 pages 92 & 96
June 28, 1887
Thomas Holman and Maggie Holman for $45 gave up 1/7 interest on house and 1/2 acre lot in Crab Orchard, conveyed by their parents
James Holman and Martha "Patsy" Holman. Located on Stanford Street almost opposite the Baptist Church and adjoining property of
A. F. Smith and W. A. Carson.
Sold to Dr. J.D. Pettus of Crab Orchard.
Because Thomas and Maggie were in Sedalia, Pettis County, Missouri
they gave his brother,
Daniel Holman of Crab Orchard, their Power of Atty to handle the transaction. (Witness was
Ollie Holman.)
Lincoln County Deed Book 20 page 93
Thomas and Maggie also sold land in Crab Orchard on Lancaster Street next to the Christian Church for $159.64.
Lincoln County Deed Book 20 page 95
Dec 30, 1886
Matt Holman and his wife Julia Holman of Crab Orchard for $35 gave up 1/7 interest on house and 1/2 acre lot in Crab Orchard, situated opposite the Baptist Church on Stanford Street.
One of the children and heirs to Catherine [?] Holman who died in Crab Orchard.
Sold to J. D. Pettus.
Lincoln County Deed Book 20 pages 122-123
Nov 4, 1887
James A Holman and his wife Matilda Ann Holman of Rockcastle County for $20 gave up 1/7 interest on house and lot in Crab Orchard, known as the Holman property. Situated on Stanford Street almost directly opposite of Baptist Church. Inherited from his parents
James Holman and Patsy Holman.
Sold to Dr. J. D. Pettus of Crab Orchard.
Lincoln County Deed Book 20 pages 117-118
Nov 26, 1887
Martha F Chasteen paid $325 for house and one-half acre in Crab Orchard, fronting on Stanford Street, almost opposite the Baptist Church, and adjoins the property of
WA Carson and heirs of A. F. Smith. Same property of which James Holman and his wife, decd possessed.
Grantors: Jas. D. Pettus, Edith Pettus, Wm. M. Garnett, Mary H.
Garnett, Wm. P. Tatum, Amanda Tatum, Samuel Holman, and
Claudia Holman.
Lincoln County Deed Book 25 pages 140-141
On February 9, 1893, Claudia Holman, wife of Samuel Holman of Crab Orchard, for $180, sold her rights to one house and lot Crab Orchard to
Jesse Chasteen and his wife Martha Chasteen of Berea, Madison County. The property was situated on the south side of Stanford Street opposite the Baptist Church, and was the same house deeded by
Joseph D Pettus and others on November 26, 1887 (Deed Book 20, page 118).
[Note: Ollie Holman was Oliver Holman, the son of Thomas
Holman and Maggie (Melvin) Holman.]
[Note: William Archibald Carson married first to S. Maggie Sigler and then to
Nellie W. Yantis were the neighbors of James Holman and Martha (Ramsey)
Holman.]
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Notes from
History of Garrard County, Kentucky and its Churches
By Forrest Calico
Pages 128 – 131
First Kentucky Cavalry Regiment:
organized July 1861
Col William Jennings Landrum
Lt Col Frank Wolford
both were veterans of the Mexican War
Company K recruits were largely from Madison County (most from Poosey Ridge)
Company K Captains: Nelson D Burris and Phillip Roberts
Private Bryant Holman
Pages 134 – 135
Seventh Kentucky Cavalry Regiment
Lt Col John K Faulkner
Capt Robert Collier, a Mexican War veteran
Privates: Isaac and Mason Pointer, Daniel Holman, John and William Pointer
Pages 136 – 137
Eleventh Kentucky Cavalry Regiment
Company A
Mixed company from Garrard and Madison Counties
Raised by Capt John G Pond, Baptist minister (his father Griffin Pond came from Virginia with the Craig group to Gilbert’s Creek, Garrard County)
Sergeant Joseph Tatum
Privates: Samuel Tatum, James and John Roberts, James Elkins, Henderson
Elkins, James Holman
Was in Wolford’s brigade and in Stoneman’s Raid. Escaped with Col Adams and the First Kentucky Cavalry Regiment to join General Sherman.
Pages 372 – 375
Old Bethel Baptist Church
Located on Fall Lick Creek in the Knob region, four or five miles west of the Cartersville Road. [Fall Lick empties into Drakes Creek. Drakes Creek empties into the Dix River, and the Dix River empties into the Kentucky River.
The head waters of the East Fork of Drakes Creek are just south of the Good Hope Church. Gilberts Creek and Harmons Lick also empty into the Dix River.]
Member of the Predestinarian or Foot Washing Baptist Church
Organized around 1800
Preachers: Henry Elkin, King David Noaks, L. B. Johnson, Isaac Renfro, Pierce Bryant.
Members: Bentley, Brock, Kennedy, Bryant, Renfro, McQuerry, Holman, Pointer.
(John Bentley married daughter of Preacher Henry
Elkin.)
Pages 342 – 343
Old Union Baptist Church
Located on southwest side of the road on James Kennedy’s line
Schoolhouse church, the predecessor of the Good Hope Church
Preachers: Henry Elkin of Madison County, Isaac Renfro, King David Noaks, L. B. Johnson, and John Pond
Members: Bentleys, Pointers, Brocks, Faulkners, Kempers, Archers, Cookes, Rothwells, Bryants, Kennedys, Halls, Bairds, Dollens,
Holmans, Hammacks, Newlands, Conns, Bakers, Churches, Helmeses, Renfros, Kirkendales, Lawsons, McQuerrys, Conners, Hawleys, Cooleys, and Vernons.
Pages 347 – 349
Good Hope or Flat Woods Baptist Church
Church house built in 1895
Previously, services were held in schoolhouse called Union
Preacher: A. J. Pike
Members: Adams, Bently, Cook, Holman, Lair, McQuerry, Owens, Pointer, Payne, Parson, Rose, Reynolds,
Sowder, Southern.
[See Old Union Church]
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The children of James Holman and Martha Ramsey are buried in several nearby cemeteries:
Samuel David Holman is buried near his father-in-law Judge John Evans Carson in the Crab Orchard Cemetery in Lincoln County. (See Crab Orchard Cemetery Page Three)
Amanda M Holman is also buried in the Crab Orchard Cemetery in Lincoln County. (See Crab Orchard Cemetery Page Four)
Daniel Holman is buried near his father-in-law Preacher David Carson in the Lawrence-Proctor Cemetery in Rockcastle County. (See Lawrence-Proctor Cemetery Page Three) Daniel Holman's son Thomas Jefferson Holman is buried in the Piney Grove Cemetery in Rockcastle County.
James Alexander Holman is buried in the Stringtown Cemetery in Garrard County.
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Alexander Ramsey (father of the Martha Ramsey who married James Holman) and some of his family are in the Lancaster Cemetery in Lancaster, Garrard County, Kentucky.
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Descendants of James Holman
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