The Carson Family
From Washington County,
Virginia
To Rockcastle County, Kentucky
To Jellico, Tennessee
To Davie, Broward County, Florida
James Holman (Holdman, Holeman)
Born: about 1814 in Madison County, Kentucky
Died: about 1886 in Crab Orchard, Lincoln County, Kentucky
DNA Test Results
My first cousin [a documented descendant of the James Holman (Holdman, Holeman) who was born about 1814 in
Madison County, Kentucky] did the yDNA test at Family Tree DNA.
The results of the DNA tests by FamilyTreeDNA show that these three Holmans are "very tightly related" with each other:
* James Holman (Holdman, Holeman) was born about 1814 in Madison County, Kentucky. He lived in the area of Brodhead and Crab Orchard, Kentucky, which are on the border of three Kentucky counties: Lincoln, Garrard, and Rockcastle. On June 4, 1835 in
Garrard County, Kentucky, James
Holeman was married to Martha Ramsey, the daughter of
Alexander Ramsey, by Baptist minister Benjamin
Polston.
* Daniel Holeman was born about 1787 in North
Carolina, had children in Tennessee, and homesteaded in
Douglas County,
Missouri.
* Kenneth Holeman (died in 1871 in Upperfreehold, Monmouth
County,
New Jersey) married Sarah "Sally" Jamison, the daughter of Henry Jamison and his wife, Margaret. Kenneth
Holeman is thought to be a direct descendant of the Robert Holeman who left a 1709 Will in Monmouth, New Jersey.
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Since Kenneth Holman is thought to be a direct descendant of the Robert
Holeman who left a 1709 Will in Monmouth,
New Jersey, I am assuming that the other two are also direct descendants. The Robert
Holeman who left a 1709 Will in Monmouth, New Jersey had four sons: Joseph
Holeman, b. 1685; Thomas Holeman, b. 1686; Robert Holeman, b. 1687; and
Daniel Holeman, b. 1689. Based on this assumption, candidates to be the nearest common ancestor for the three "very tightly related" Holmans are:
* Robert Holeman, born Abt. 1687 in Middletown, Monmouth Co., New Jersey, the son of the Robert Holman who left a 1709 Will in Monmouth, New Jersey. I have no information on him.
* Thomas Holeman, b. 1686, the son of the Robert Holeman who left a 1709 Will in Monmouth, New Jersey. I have no information on Thomas, b. 1686, but I believe he is the father of
Thomas Holeman, born about 1723 in Kent Co, Maryland, lived in the Shenandoah Valley in Virginia, moved from Virginia to North Carolina around 1750, and died in 1798 in Wilkes County, North Carolina.
* Daniel Holeman, born Bef. 1690 in Middletown, Monmouth Co., New Jersey, the son of the Robert
Holeman who left a 1709 Will in Monmouth, New Jersey. Daniel Holeman and his first wife had a son named Jacob
Holeman (died Abt. 1784). Holman family researcher, Georgia Kinney Bopp, reports that this line "daughtered out". Isaac
Holeman (died 1808) also could be Daniel Holeman's son by this first marriage. I have not found any yDNA test results from a documented descendant of
Isaac Holeman (died 1808). [Note: This is strange because many descendants of Isaac Holman (died 1808) are listed in the Holeman/Holman Newsletter and they are obviously interested in genealogy.]
If the assumption that the nearest common ancestor for the three "very tightly related" Holman men is
Joseph Holeman (and his wife Thamson), the eldest son of the Robert Holman who left a 1709 Will in Monmouth, New Jersey, then the six sons of Joseph Holeman (and his wife Thamson) are candidates to be the ancestors of the "very tightly related"
Holemans:
1. Joseph Holeman, born about 1708 and died about 1741, married Grace Wooley. They had one son, Joseph, who married Nancy Perrine, and they had one son who died young.
2. Robert Holeman (1712-1790) who is the grandfather of Kenneth Holman, one of the three "very tightly related" Holman men.
3. Aaron Holeman, born about 1714 and died 1782, married Anne Story. They had three sons: Joseph (1746-1781), Thomas (1748- ), and Aaron (1750-1812). Only Thomas (1748- ) had sons.
[Elias Holeman, born about 1759 and who died Nov 01, 1827 in Burlington County, New Jersey is probably a son of Thomas (1748- ).]
4. John Holeman born about 1716. No information on him.
5. Richard Holeman (1720-1747). No information on him.
6. Francis Holeman (1724-1758) married Catherine Dye. They had four sons: Robert (1740-1815), Daniel (1748- ), James, and Journey. James, and Journey may be stepsons? (Catherine Dye was the sister of the Joseph Dye who married Martha Holeman, daughter of Joseph and Thamson Holeman.)
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The three "very tightly related" Holeman men fall into the Holman Lineage II group at WorldFamilies.net, which is associated with Thomas Holeman born about in 1723 in Kent Co., Maryland.
(Thomas Holeman born about in 1723 in Kent Co., Maryland is thought to be the son or grandson of the Robert
Holeman who left a 1709 Will in Monmouth, New Jersey.) The three "very tightly related"
Holeman men deviate from the group with a mutation at DYS 449.
Elias Holeman, born 1759 in New Jersey, also falls into this group. He deviates from the group with a mutation at DYS 458.
Generally an exact copy of the yDNA is passed from father to son, but occasionally, and at random, a slight difference may occur, called a mutation. Where the mutation is matching a mutation from another result within the Lineage, the match likely indicates a more recent shared common ancestor (or a "branch" within the Lineage) as the two men probably both inherited the mutation from a recent common ancestor.
Please note that the yDNA marker mutation rates
vary between each STR result. The chart below shows STR Mutation Rates Per
Generation. The higher the number, the faster the rate of mutation. Both DTS 449
and DYS 458 are high numbers. A mutation with a fast rate is less significant
since that marker is expected to mutate much more frequently.
STR Mutation Rate per Generation
DYS 449 0.00939
DYS 458 0.00626
If Robert Holeman, died 1709, had the mutation at DYS 449, he would have passed it to all of his sons. Apparently, this did not happen.
If Joseph Holeman (c1685-1741), eldest son of Robert Holman, died 1709, had the mutation at DYS 449, he would have passed it to all of his sons. Apparently, this did not happen.
The mutation at DYS 449 probably occurred first with one of the sons of Joseph Holeman
(c1685-1741).
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Based on the yDNA findings (no mutation), I'm assuming that the three "very tightly related"
Holemen men are "related" to, but did not descend from:
* Thomas Holeman, born about 1723 in Kent Co, Maryland, lived in the Shenandoah Valley in Virginia, moved from Virginia to North Carolina around 1750, and died in 1798 in Wilkes County, North Carolina.
* Elias Holeman, born about 1759 and who died Nov 01, 1827 in Burlington County, New Jersey. [He may be the son of Thomas Holeman (born 1748), the grandson of Aaron Holeman (1714-1782) and Ann Story (1720-1813), and great grandson of
Joseph Holeman (c1685-1741).]
Both of the above men are thought to be direct descendants of the Robert Holeman who left a 1709 Will in Monmouth, New Jersey.
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The DNA results for the descendant of James Holeman, b. 1814 in Madison Co., Kentucky, did not match the tests results in the Holman Family DNA Project for the two descendants of "German" Holmans: Conrad Holman (born before 1730 in Germany or Switzerland and died about 1771 in Amelia Township, South Carolina) and John Wendel Hallman/Heilman (born about 1710 probably in Germany and died in South Carolina).
The DNA results for the descendant of James Holeman, b. 1814 did not match any of the tests results in the Hollyman Family DNA Project (males who are or believe they are descended from the Christopher Hollyman who resided in Isle of Wight County, Virginia and died there in 1691).
The DNA results for the descendant of James Holeman, b. 1814 did not match any of the tests results in the Family DNA Project for Hagelman, Hailman, Hallman, Halman, Heilman, Heilmann, Helman, Heylman, Heylmann, Hileman, Hilemann, Hilleman, Hillemann, Hillman surnames.
To date I have not found any DNA matches between James Holeman, b. 1814, and:
* Edward Holman (born abt. 1687 Kent County, Maryland) married Rosetta Van Sandt and had sons Henry (born 1735), George (born 1737), and Edward (born 1741).
* Daniel Holeman of Shenandoah Valley and his son, Jacob.
* Isaac Holeman of the part of Rowan County, North Carolina that became Davie County.
* Captain James Holeman (died 1759) and his brother Henry Holman of James River, Henrico County,
Virginia.
* William Holeman (born 1658) and his wife Ann Tandy of Goochland County, Virginia.
* Richard Holeman who relocated from "banks of the Rappahannock" in Virginia to Timberlake in the part of Orange county that became Person
County, North Carolina.
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Next Steps
1. We need to yDNA test male Holmans who are documented direct descendants of:
* Massachusetts Holmans.
* Rhode Island Holmans.
* Roane Co., Tennessee Holmans
* Elias Holman, born 6 Aug 1656 in Musbury, Devon, England, and migrated to America in 1685.
* Edward Holeman of Kent County, Maryland.
* Isaac Holeman, died 1808 in North Carolina. (Randy Holman Schmidt has raised the possibility that Isaac is not the son of "old" Daniel Holman of the Shenandoah Valley.)
* Capt James Holeman of the James River in Virginia and his brother Henry Holman.
* William Holeman of Isle of Wight County, Virginia who married Ann Tandy.
* Richard Holeman who married Jean Carlisle, and relocated to Person County, North Carolina from "the banks of the Rappahannock" in Virginia.
2. We need to identify the Holmans in the New Jersey Census:
3. We need to review the Monmouth County, New Jersey property records:
* On December 30, 1667, the town of Middletown, New Jersey, was organized as follows, "The lotts of Middleton all layd out being numbered thirty-six beginning at the west end upon the south side with number one and ending at the west and north side with number thirty-six."
Among the purchasers was a Samuel Holeman of Rhode Island (son of Ezekial Holliman of Providence) who bought lot Number 13. On 8 June 1672, he sold the lot to
Steven Arnold.
* Edwin Salter in his History of Monmouth and Ocean Counties page 30 (Warrants for tracts of land to be subsequently located and surveyed were issued by the Proprietors: 1676
Samuel Holeman 560 acres)
* Edwin Salter in his History of Monmouth and Ocean Counties, Robert Holman in 1689 purchased land from
Daniel Estile (Eastall). The land was on Millstone Brook and was bordered by un-surveyed land in Upper Freehold Township.
* In 1726 Richard Mount , Jr., sold five hundred acres, in Freehold to Joseph Holeman.
* The names of the taxable inhabitants of Upper Freehold, dated Apr. 1, 1731.
Name
Acres
Elias Holman
100
Joseph Holman 200
* Roster of People of Revolutioary Monmouth County
Holdman, Ezekiel Upper Freehold
[Who is this?]
Holdman, Joseph Upper Freehold
Holman, Aaron
Holman, John
Holman, Joseph
Upper Freehold
Holman, William Upper Freehold
Holman, William Freehold
* Kenneth Holman lived in the Township of Millstone in 1850 - Real estate $800)
* Perrine Robert Holman, born 31 Dec 1878, is a great grandson of
Kenneth Holman. (Is Abbie the brother of Perrine?)
Farm and Business Directory of Monmouth Co., NJ, 1914
Page 89 Millstone Twp
Page 92
Holman, Abbie; Owns 36 acres; truck; Rural Route #1; Robbinsville; Highway 55.
Holman, Perrine; wife Cora; 3 children; Farmer Owns 50 acres; Bel
tel; Rural Route #1; Allentown; Highway 29.
4. We need to review probate records at Monmouth County Surrogate’s Office:
* Files # 10513 & 10514 Holman, Abbie Vol 8 pg 139 Blocks 8 & 10
Dec 17, 1924 Millstone Twp Albert A Taylor, Admr
* File # 10515 Holman, Ella Vol 8 pg 140 Block 3 Aug 13, 1916
Asbury Pk Chas W Rosevear, Exr
* File # 10516 Holman, Gustavus Vol 8 pg 140 Block 4 Nov 16, 1929
Asbury Pk cta Frank Holman Exr Hazel Holman Sub Admrx
* File # 10517 Holman, John H Vol 8 pg 140 Block 5 Jul 22, 1911
Millstone Tp Perrine (R) Holman Exr
* File # 10518 Holman (or Holeman), Joseph Vol 8 pg 140 Block 6
Wm Mount - Matthew Perrine Admrs
* File # 10519 Holman, Josephine Vol 8 pg 140 Block 7 Oct 2, 1896
N Long Branch Edmund Wilson Admr
* File # 10520 Holman, Perrine R Vol 8 pg 140 Block 8 May 26, 1925
Millstone Tp Cora L (or) R Holman Exrx
* File # 10521 Holman, Robert Vol 8 pg 140 Block 9 Mary Holman Exrx
* File # 10522 Holman (or) Holeman, Robert Vol 8 pg 140 Block 10
Freehold Tp David Craig-Jacob Johnson Exrs
5. We need to review the property and tax records for years 1800 to 1840 for:
South Amboy, Middlesex, New Jersey
North Brunswick, Middlesex Co., New Jersey
East Windsor, Mercer, New Jersey
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Working Assumptions Regarding the three Holmans who are "Very Tightly Related"
The New Jersey Connection
The DNA test results show that a great grandfather of
Kenneth Holeman, died 1871 in Monmouth County, New Jersey, is 97.28% likely to be the common ancestor of the three "very tightly related" Holemans. However, I have been unable to connect two of the three “very tightly related” Holman men to the Robert
Holeman who married Margaret
Jemson:
............2 Robert HOLMAN b: Abt. 1712 in Upper Freehold, Monmouth, New Jersey d: 1790 in Middlesex, New Jersey
................+Margaret JEMSON b: Abt. 1720 in Somerset, New Jersey
....................3 Joseph HOLMAN b: Jul 1773 in New Jersey d. 1823 in Bethel, Clermont Co., Ohio
....................3 Jacob HOLMAN b: Bet. 1746–1770 d. Aft. 1809
..........................+ Eloice
............................... 4 Kenneth HOLMAN died 1871 in New Jersey
....................3 Hannah HOLMAN
The Holman men below appear to be "connected" to
the Robert Holeman who married Margaret Jemson:
* Daniel Holeman, born Abt. 1689, relocated to Shenandoah Valley in Virginia in 1735/36, and secured rights to property on Holman Creek in the area that became Shenandoah County, Virginia. The property was part of a large tract first controlled by the Van Meter family and later by Jost Hite. Because of the connection to the Van Meter family, I believe that Daniel entered the
Shenandoah Valley by crossing the Blue Ridge Mountain range rather then entering through the valley's north opening. The only connection I can find to the three "very tightly related" Holemans is the fact that Daniel
Holeman was the brother of the Joseph
Holeman (c1685-1741) who is the father of the Robert Holeman who married
Margaret Jemson.
* Thomas Holeman, born about 1723 in Kent Co, Maryland, lived in the Shenandoah Valley in Virginia, moved from Virginia to North Carolina around 1750, and died in 1798 in Wilkes County, North Carolina. I believe that Thomas moved to the Shenandoah Valley after 1735/36 and before 1750. DNA studies show that the three "very tightly related" Holeman men are "related" to, but did not descend from, Thomas.
* A William Holeman (parents unknown) appears on the Bullpasture River in the Shenandoah Valley around 1746. He may be the father of the William Holman who left
orphaned sons in Green County, Tennessee (formerly Washington County, North Carolina) in 1797.
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Question: When did the father of Daniel Holeman of Douglas County, Missouri leave New
Jersey and move to North Carolina? The 1850 United States Federal Census for Ozark County, Missouri shows Daniel Holeman being born in North Carolina in 1787. Other researchers show him as being born in Virginia in 1763. The historical record gives a general time frame for when this unknown Holman man may have moved out of New Jersey.
After a corrupt government stole their land, about half of the families of Hopewell, New Jersey relocated between 1731 and 1760. A popular destination was the upper Shenandoah Valley (the upper end is the northern end). The greatest concentration of New Jersey migrants was along Back Creek (the next creek west of Opequon) in a small, mountain community where a peak was named by its early settlers "Jersey Mountain." Apparently, they just squatted on land that was not very desirable. By May 1741, Bladen County,
North Carolina issued deeds on the Great Peedee (Yadkin). The Hopewell group relocated to North Carolina and chose the north bank of the Great Peedee (Yadkin) to found their
"Jersey Settlement." There is no mention of Holmans being part of the group from Hopewell, New Jersey.
Starting in about 1766 a seemingly large number of folks from Monmouth County, New Jersey migrated to what is today Elizabeth, Pennsylvania (south of Pittsburgh). They would have taken Falls Path and crossed the Delaware River at Trenton which took them to Philadelphia. From there they would have picked up the Old Swedes Path also known as the King's Path which was laid out in 1684 which went through Darby to New Castle, Delaware. Then following a path or paths that would have taken them across northern Maryland crossing the upper Potomac River then on to Fort Frederick then to Will's creek (now Cumberland, Maryland). They would then pick up Braddock's Road (Nemacolin's Path) to Will's Mountain. Here Braddock's Road turned north because General Braddock did not think he could get his wagons and artillery over the mountain before him. He went by the narrows of Will's Creek bringing him to Glades Path. Here the settlers would have turned west following Galdes Path which would take them through what is now Westmoreland County,
Pennsylvania, then through Forward Township to the Monongahela River. The
"Jersey Settlement" in Pennsylvania was founded by Thomas, William, Daniel, Samuel, and Benjamin Applegate, James and Walter Wall, all originally from Monmouth County, New Jersey. There is no mention of Holmans being part of the group from New Jersey.
Note: the Holemans of Kent County, Maryland did not relocate to southwest Pennsylvania until 1774, and then they moved on to the Ohio Valley.
The website below, researched, written, photographed, and designed by Al Frazza, shows that in the time period 1776 to 1780 New Jersey was not a safe place for males of military age.
"The Revolutionary War in New Jersey"
1776
August 27 The British defeat George Washington at Long Island, New York
September 12 Washington retreats from New York
November 16 British capture Fort Washington, NY and Fort Lee, NJ
November 20 Abandonment of Fort Lee, begins the retreat of the American army across New Jersey
1777
January 2 Second Battle of Trenton
January 3 Battle of Princeton
November 21-24 Cornwallis headquarters at Woodbury. Continental Army at Valley Forge
1778
June 28 Battle of Monmouth
1779
October 26 The court house of Somerset County burned by Tory Raiders
1780
June 23 The Battle of Springfield; this was the last large battle fought in the north
A historic plaque at the Monmouth Battlefield contains the following description:
"The Battle of Monmouth was a turning point in the American Revolutionary War. In 1776 and 1777, the British Army had repeatedly defeated the main Continental Army. By the beginning of 1778, General George Washington and the Continental Army desperately needed a victory.
"On June 18th, concerned that the French might block the Delaware River, the British abandoned Philadelphia and began marching their army of 20,000 British, German, and Loyalist troops across New Jersey to their main base in New York City. On June 19th, Washington and 13,000 men, fresh from Von Steuben's military training at Valley Forge, set out to intercept the Crown forces.
"The Battle began at about 10 AM [on June 28th], two miles east of here at Monmouth Courthouse and continued for over seven hours, making it one of the longest battles of the Revolution. By 5:30 PM, the British had retreated and the firing ceased. At dawn on the following day, Washington moved fresh troops forward to resume the battle, but the British forces had slipped away during the night to continue their journey to New York City.
"The Battle of Monmouth was a political triumph for the Continental Army and General Washington. The Continental Army met the British in open field, held their own and forced them to retreat. It was their first victory in two years."
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Working Assumptions Regarding the three Holmans who are "Very Tightly Related"
The Virginia Connection
David Emory Holman, M.D. in his book, "The Holmans in America concerning the descendants of Solaman Holman, Volume One", mentions a 1635 land grant to
Thomas Holeman of James City County, Virginia.
His first mention of documented Holmans concerns:
* James Holeman of Goochland County who married Mrs. or Miss Sarah Woodward and was granted state land patents (1722-1746) for 2841 acres in Goochland County, Virginia
* Henry Holeman (brother of James) who married Mourning Bowles, and was in Goochland County in 1739.
The assumption is that James and Henry Holman of Goochland County, Virginia descend from Thomas Holeman of James City County, Virginia.
Another possible explanation is that some relatives of "Old Daniel"
Holeman who first moved from New Jersey to Kent County, Maryland, and then to Shenandoah, Virginia may have relocated to central Virginia.
Descendants of James and Henry Holeman of Goochland County, Virginia were in the same places in the same time periods as the unknown parents of one of the three "very tightly related"
Holeman men:
James Holeman, born abt 1814 in Madison County, Kentucky, married Martha Ramsey in 1835 in Garrard
County, Kentucky, and died abt 1886 in Crab Orchard, Lincoln County, Kentucky.
John Holeman (1736-1837), the grandson of Captain James Holeman of the part of Henrico County that became Goochland County, Virginia, married
Elizabeth Burton (1738-1828), thought to be the daughter of Robert and Priscilla (Farrar)
Burton, on May 20, 1770.
See Virginia Holemans
See Kentucky Surnames
John Holeman (1736-1837)
Dec 25, 1736 Born in Goochland Co., Virginia
c. 1778 After the Revolution, he continued to live in Goochland County, Virginia for another year
c. 1779-1780 then moved to North Carolina for two or three years
c. 1780-1783 then moved to Powell's Valley, Virginia for about two years
c. 1783-1784 then to Crab Orchard, Lincoln County, Kentucky, where he raised two crops
c. 1785-1792 thence further down in Kentucky, within six or eight miles of Bairdstown, Nelson Co., Kentucky where he resided about seven years
c. 1793-1805 thence twenty miles further on to a place called Rough Creek, Hardin
County, Kentucky where he resided about twelve years
c. 1806-1814 thence lower down to Hartford, Ohio County, Kentucky where he lived for eight years
c. 1815-1826 then crossed the Mississippi River to Saint Michaels Township, Madison County, Missouri, where he lived for twelve years
c. 1826 to Hempstead County, Arkansas
James Burton Holeman (1780-1876), son of John and Elizabeth (Burton) Holeman, first married
Rebecca Mcneil on September 18, 1805 in Hardin County, Kentucky; then Rebecca Tong
on April 14, 1809 in Ohio County, Kentucky; and finally the widow, Esther Court
Mack, on January 19, 1858 in Lamar County, Texas.
Rebecca McNeil (1785-1808) is the daughter of Elizabeth Van Meter
(1752-1803) and her second husband, Thomas McNeil (1749-1790).
Elizabeth Van Meter (1752-1803) is the daughter of Jacob Van Meter (born 1723 in Somerset County, New Jersey; died Nov 16, 1798 in Hardin County, Kentucky) and
Letitia Strode (1725-1789).
The Van Meters arrived around 1660 as part of the Dutch settlement in the New York area (New Netherland). They later acquired land in Somerset County, Province of East Jersey.
John Van Meter of New York and New Jersey (married to Sarah du Bois) was an Indian Trader and traveled to the Shenandoah Valley with the Delaware Indians. John Van Meter told his sons, John Van Meter, Jr (married first to Sarah Bodine and second to Margaret Mulinar) and Isaac Van Meter about the prize
land in the Valley. The two sons Migrated from New Jersey down to the area of Frederick County, Maryland, and in 1730 applied for and received from Virginia Governor Gooch a land grant for 40,000 acres.
[Note: This land, except for two parcels retained by the Van Meters, was later transferred to
Jost Hite. Rebecca Van Meter (the daughter of John Van Meter, the Indian Trader, and Sarah du Bois) married Cornelis Elting and had a daughter, Sara Elting. Sara Elting married Col. John Hite, the eldest son of Jost Hite
and Anna Marie du Bois. See Shenandoah
Valley]
Jacob Van Meter (1723-1798) was the fourth and youngest son of John Van Meter, Jr
and his second wife, Margaret Mulinar. Around 1768, Jacob Van Meter (1723-1798) and his wife Letitia Strobe sold their land in Frederick County, Virginia and relocated to the southwestern part of Pennsylvania (which was
also claimed by Virginia).
In 1779, Jacob Van Meter (1723-1798) again relocated. This time he loaded twenty-seven houseboats with his extended family and floated from Pittsburgh down the Ohio River to near
Louisville, Kentucky. They joined a settlement in the part of Nelson County, Kentucky which later became
Hardin County,
Kentucky.
Elizabeth Van Meter (born 1752 in Frederick County, Virginia and died 1803 in Elizabethtown, Hardin County, Kentucky) was the daughter of Jacob Van Meter (1723-1798) and Letitia Strobe. Elizabeth Van Meter (1752-1803) married first John Swan (1744-1783), married second
Thomas McNeil (1749-1790), and married third John Vertrees (1741-1803).
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Are Captain James Holeman of the part of Henrico County that became Goochland County, Virginia and his brother, Henry, related to the "Tandy" Holemans?
William Holeman (1658-after 1695) and his
wife Ann Tandy of Goochland County, Virginia.
Their son, Tandy H Holeman (born 1695 in Tidewater, York County,
Virginia) married Mary Wagstaff.
Tandy H Holeman; b: 1695 in York County, Virginia;
d: Feb 1735 in Caroline County, Virginia
+ Mary Wagstaff b: Abt. 1705 in York Co., Va; m: 1719
in York Co., Va; d: 1731 in Stafford County, Virginia
.....2 William Holeman b: 1725 in York Co., Va, d: Dec 1796 in Goochland
County, Virginia; St. James Parish
+ Susannah Thompson b: 1727 in York
County, Virginia, d: 1817 in Goochland County, Virginia
..........3 Mary L Holeman b: 1742 in Caroline County, Virginia, d: 1827
+ James
Austin
..........3 Susannah Holeman b: Abt. 1750 in Caroline County, Virginia, d: 1817
+ John Britt
b: 1749 in Goochland Co., Va; m: May 23, 1770 in Goochland Co., Va; d: Sep 18,
1797 in Goochland Co., Va
..........3 William Holeman b: 1751 in Caroline County, Virginia
..........3 Capt Tandy Holeman b: Abt. 1756 in Caroline County, Virginia, d: Jul
24, 1836 in Clark County, Kentucky
+ Eleanor Ann
Bradley b: Abt. 1756 in Charles Co., Virginia; m: 1784 in Virginia; d: Abt. 1785
in Virginia
+ Elizabeth
Abney b: 1769, m: Sep 30, 1786 in Amherst County, Virginia, d: 1805
+ Elizabeth
"Betsy" Stevenson b: 1780, m: Sep 1820 in Clark County, Kentucky, d:
1859
..........3 John Holeman b: 1758
..........3 Elizabeth Holeman b: 1762 in Goochland County, Virginia; St. James
Parish
+ John
Wilmerton m: Feb 15, 1793 in Goochland County, Virginia
+ John
Chambers m: Abt. 1807 in Goochland County, Virginia
..........3 George Holeman b: Aug 31, 1766 in Goochland Co., Va; d: May
24, 1854 in Fluvanna County, Virginia
+ Mary
Jordan Payne b: Aug 21, 1780 in Va. [grand daughter of Judith Burton (1731)
and George Payne (1707-1784)]
..........3 Sarah Holeman b: 1769 in Goochland Co., Va, d: Dec 19, 1849 in
Buckingham County, Virginia
+ George
Holeman b: Apr 17, 1773 in Cumberland Co., Va; m: 1800; d: Feb 07, 1840 in
Cumberland Co., Virginia
[son of John Holeman and Susannah Yancey]
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Working Assumptions Regarding the three Holmans who are "Very Tightly Related"
The Kentucky Connection
Are these the parents of James Holeman, born 1814 in Madison County, Kentucky?
* James Holeman, born about 1770 in Rowan Co, North Carolina and
* Sarah Wilson, born about 1774 in Madison Co., Kentucky?
Sarah Wilson’s mother, Catherine (Livingston) Wilson, after her first husband died, married
Joseph Holeman. Joseph Holeman, born about 1746, and his first wife, Elizabeth Wilson, are thought to be the parents of the James Holman, born about 1770. According to the Holeman/Holman Newsletter, Joseph Holeman, born about 1746, is the son of
Thomas Holeman, died about 1798, and his wife Mary.
If Thomas Holeman, died about 1798, is the father of the Joseph
Holeman, born about 1746, the DNA studies suggest that James Holeman, born 1814, can not be the son James Holeman, born about
1770 (assumed son of Joseph Holeman).
My
current assumptions are:
* Joseph Holeman and his first wife, Elizabeth Wilson, had the
following children: Joseph Holeman, Jr., born about 1775 in NC
(married Rebecca Barnes); William C. Holeman, born Jan 7, 1778 in
NC (married Eleanor Barnes); John Holeman, born about 1781 (married
Nancy Martin); and Elizabeth Holeman, born 1784 (married Joshua
Moran).
* Joseph Holeman and his second wife, Catherine Livingston, had no children. However, Catherine Livingston and her first husband, Mr. Wilson, had the following children: William Wilson, born about 1760; Hannah Wilson (married Alexander Hosich); Sarah Wilson, born about 1774 (married James Holeman); and Mary "Polly" Wilson, born about 1772 (married Edward Hockersmith).
* James Holeman, born about 1770 in Rowan Co., NC, (married
Sarah Wilson) may or may not be a son of Joseph Holeman and his first wife,
Elizabeth Wilson. The relationship between James Holeman and Joseph
Holeman may be limited to the fact that James Holeman married Sarah Wilson.
* There were two Daniel Holemans (possibly cousins) in this part of
Kentucky during this time period:
** Daniel Holeman of Hardin
County married a Rebecca Johnson. This Daniel Holman is not the
father of the James Holeman, born 1814 in Madison County, Kentucky.
[Note: Daniel Holman (and his wife Rebecca Johnson) and James
Holman, born about 1814 in Madison Co., Kentucky, (and his wife Martha
"Patsy" Ramsey) used the same names for some of their children:
James, Madison, Amanda, and Sarah.]
** Daniel Holeman of Madison
County married a Rebecca Elkins. This Daniel Holman may be the
father of the James Holeman, born 1814 in Madison County, Kentucky.
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Alexander Ramsey (1783-1867) is the father of the
Martha "Patsy" Ramsey who married James Holeman (born about 1814 in Madison Co., Kentucky)
Alexander Ramsey estate settlement
Garrard County Kentucky Will Book R, page 505
December Term 1869 (27)
January Term 1870 again produced and orders to be recorded W H Whemitt, clerk
The estate folder contains the following receipt: (Name not filled in) signed by
James Hollman and Daniel Hollman $29.06 July 27, 1868
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Working Assumptions Regarding the three Holemans who are "Very Tightly Related"
The Missouri Connection
James Holeman, b. 1814, is "very tightly related" to the descendant of
the Daniel Holeman who was born about 1787 in North
Carolina, had children in Tennessee, and homesteaded in Douglas, Missouri.
The descendant of this Daniel Holeman is investigating whether or not his ancestor is the Daniel Holeman (b: Abt. 1786 in North Carolina) who married
Sally Ferguson on Jan 30, 1810 in Wilkes Co., North Carolina
Thomas Holeman b: Abt. 1723 in Kent Co, Maryland, d: 1798 in Wilkes County, NC
..... + Mary Ann Thompson (first wife)
..........2 Thomas Holeman b: 04 Feb 1756 in NC, d: 03 Apr 1833 in Wilkes County, NC
............... + Margaret Sutherland b: 05 Apr 1758 in Virginia, m: 16 May 1778 in Rowan Co., NC, d: Nov 1791 in Wilkes Co., NC (first wife)
...............3 Joseph Holeman
...............3 Nancy Holeman b: Abt. 1782 in North Carolina, d: Abt. 1887 in Wilkes Co., North Carolina
............... + John Thomas St. Clair m: 18 Oct 1806 in Wilkes Co., NC
............... + Daniel Johnson m: 18 Dec 1799 in Wilkes Co., NC
...............3 Molly Holeman b: Abt. 1783 in North Carolina
............... + John Hall m: 19 Jul 1806 in Wilkes Co., NC
...............3 William Holeman b: 16 Sep 1784 in Wilkes Co., NC, d: Aft. 30 Apr 1858
............... + Charity Ferguson b: Abt. 1795 in NC, m: 04 Aug 1806
...............3 Daniel Holeman b: Abt. 1786 in North Carolina
............... + Sally Ferguson m: 30 Jan 1810 in Wilkes Co., NC
...............3 Rachel Holeman b: 04 May 1787 in Wilkes Co., NC, d: 06 Aug 1856 in Whitley Co., Kentucky
............... + David Stanberry b: 01 Feb 1784 in Wilkesboro, Wilkes, NC, m: 06 Sep 1806 in Wilkes Co., NC, d: 12 Feb 1855 in Whitley, Kentucky
...............3 Margaret Holeman b: Abt. 1788 in North Carolina
............... + Lewis Watkins m: 26 Mar 1819 in Wilkes Co., NC
Daniel married Sally Ferguson on Jan 30, 1810 in Wilkes Co., North Carolina?
Son: Andrew Jackson Holeman b: 1820 in Tennessee
Son: Asa C Holeman b: Oct 22, 1829 in Roane County, Tennessee
Daniel Holman in 1830 census for Roane County, Tennessee
Son: William B Holeman b: 1831 in Roane County, Tennessee
Son: George Washington Holeman b: 1832 in Roane County, Tennessee
Daughter: Jane Holeman b: 1835 in Roane County, Tennessee
Son: Thomas Holeman b: 1838 in Tennessee
Daughter: Nancy Holeman b: 1840 in Tennessee
Daniel Holman in 1840 census for Livingston
County, Kentucky
Daniel Holman in 1850 census for Ozark County, Missouri
Another Possibility:
Could the Daniel Holeman of Douglas County, Missouri
be connected to the Holemans of Madison
County, Kentucky?
Joseph Holeman (born about 1746), the brother of Thomas Holeman (b: Feb 4, 1756 in NC) was in the Madison County, Kentucky census for 1800 and 1810.
Two of the assumed sons of Joseph Holeman may in fact not be his sons:
* James Holeman, born about 1770 in Rowan Co., NC, (married Sarah
Wilson, step daughter of Joseph Holeman).
* Daniel Holeman of Madison County who married a Rebecca Elkins.
These two Holeman men may be related to, but not sons of, Joseph Holeman.
Are these two Holemen men brothers? Could one of them be the father of James
Holeman, b. 1814 in Madison County, Kentucky?
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